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قديم 08-31-2016, 10:20 PM   #1
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Unfulfilled Predictions
:
A)
Predicting the end of world in first Gregorian century
:-
Matthew: ( 10 : 1 – 23 )


(... 23- When they persecute you in one city, flee to another; for truly I say to you, you will by no means complete the circuit of the cities of Israel until the Son of man arrives).


That is the return of Jesus to the earth will occur before his disciples finish evangelization in the cities of Israel, and before the death of those who lived in the era of Jesus in the first half of the first Gregorian century.


Mathew 16: (27- For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. 28 - Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom)


In other words, the afore-mentioned texts confirm that the end of the world and the coming of Jesus again to Earth should occur before the death of the generation which lived in the first Gregorian Century.

Matthew 24: (29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken 30- And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. ……. 34 - Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled).



Mark (13: 24-30) and Luke (21: 25-32) agreed with the narrative of Matthew regarding such predictions; however, nothing of them occurred as predicted by Matthew.

As such, the predictions, which were attributed to Jesus in the Bibles about the end of the world in the first Gregorian century, were not fulfilled; thus, no one can argue or plead otherwise.


B) Predicting that Judas the Betrayer will accompany Jesus in the Hereafter
:
Mathew 19: (27- Then answered Peter and said unto him, Behold, we have forsaken all, and followed thee; what shall we have therefore? 28- And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel).


Judas Iscariot was one of the twelve disciples to whom this prophecy was said, but after his betrayal to Jesus, he became known as (Son of Perdition) because he was expelled from accompanying Jesus in this Life and in the Hereafter. Accordingly, this prophecy was not and cannot be fulfilled.



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قديم 09-24-2016, 10:42 PM   #2
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Predicting that Jesus will stay in tomb for three days and three nights
:
The summary of your reply in page (6) of your message, line (9) states: So Jesus raised on Sunday, in (the third day). Three days means three parts of such three days i.e. (Part of Friday + Saturday + part of the Sunday). In the past, they used to consider a part of day as one day. That is the way Christians understood it, and also, the Jews who addressed Jesus, and we nowadays also understood it like that. But what about the three nights mentioned by Jesus: (... and three nights, so shall it be ..... and three nights). How do you calculate these three nights!! It is Friday night + Saturday Night + a missing night which is Sunday night!...

Predicting that Jesus will stay in tomb for three days and three nights
:
The Jews asked Jesus to let them see a sign. Mathew 12: (38-Then some of the scribes and Pharisees answered him, saying, “Teacher, we wish to see a sign from you.” 39- But he answered them, “An evil and adulterous generation seeks for a sign, but no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. 40- For just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth).

Such statement is common in all bibles and was mentioned in most of them. Mark mentioned it in (8:31, 9:31 and 10:34).

It is mentioned by Luke with significant difference, which is: Luke 11: (29- And as the crowds were thronging together, He began to say, This generation is an evil generation; it seeks a sign, and a sign shall not be given to it except the sign of Jonah. 30- For even as Jonah became a sign to the Ninevites, so also will the Son of Man be to this generation). The three days mentioned also by John (2:19).

In the Book of Jonah we read the story of Jonah as the following
:
Jonah 1:17 (Now the LORD provided a huge fish to swallow Jonah, and Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights)

Jonah 2 (1- In my distress I called to the Lord, and he answered me 10- and the LORD commanded the fish, and it vomited Jonah onto dry land).
In order to fulfil such prophecy, the one who was crucified should remain in his tomb three days and three nights; however, the Bibles mentioned that the crucified person was taken from the cross Friday’s evening (The day of crucifixion), and then
:
(When evening had fallen, since it was the day of preparation, that is, the day before the Sabbath. 43- Joseph, the honorable member of the Council, from Arimathea, who was also himself awaiting the kingdom of God, came; and gathering courage, he went in to Pilate and asked for the body of Jesus. 44- And Pilate marveled that He had already died, and calling to him the centurion, he questioned him whether He had been dead long. 45- And when he found out from the centurion, he granted the corpse to Joseph. 46- And Joseph purchased a piece of fine linen, took Him down, and wrapped Him in the fine linen. And he laid Him in a tomb which was hewn out of rock and rolled a stone against the door of the tomb). (Mark 15:42-46)

The disciples and followers of Jesus found the tomb empty in the early hours of Sunday Dawn.

Matthew 28: (1- Now late on the Sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, Mary the Magdalene and the other Mary came to look at the grave….. 5- And the angel answered and said to the women…. 6- He is not here, for He has been raised).
John 20:1 (Now on the first day of the week, Mary the Magdalene came early to the tomb while it was yet dark and saw the stone taken away from the tomb)

By calculating the days and nights, we find the following
:
- The number of days spent by the dead person in his tomb is 1 day only (Saturday).
- The number of nights spent by the dead person in his tomb is just two nights (Saturday night and part of Sunday night).

Accordingly, it is impossible to fulfill the prophecy of staying in the tomb for three days and three nights.



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قديم 03-28-2024, 11:19 PM   #3
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1) Anointing Jesus’s body with spikenard:-

Ø (Mark 14: 1 After two days was the feast of the passover, and of unleavened bread: and the chief priests and the scribes sought how they might take him by craft, and put him to death. 2- But they said, Not on the feast day, lest there be an uproar of the people. 3- And being in Bethany in the house of Simon the leper, as he sat at meat, there came a woman having an alabaster box of ointment of spikenard very precious; and she brake the box, and poured it on his head. 4- And there were some that had indignation within themselves, and said, Why was this waste of the ointment made? 5- For it might have been sold for more than three hundred pence, and have been given to the poor. And they murmured against her).

Ø (Mathew) mentioned this incident in (26: 6-9) and also Luke (7: 36 – 39 “And one of the Pharisees desired him that he would eat with him. And he went into the Pharisee's house, and sat down to meat…..“) and (John 12: 1-6).

The discrepancy between the Bibles:

Place of incident:

a) In the house of Simon the leper (Mark & Mathew).

b) In Pharisee’s house (Luke).

c) In the house of brothers Lazarus, Mary and Martha (John).

Who is the woman?

a) Unknown (Mark & Mathew).

b) Sinner woman (Luke).

c) Believing woman i.e. Mary the sister of Lazarus (John).

What did she do?

a) She anointed Jesus’s head with spikenard. (Mark & Mathew).

b) She anointed his legs with pure nard (Luke & John).

Reaction of onlookers:

a) They had indignation for wasting anointment (Mark).

b) The disciples were indignant (Mathew).

c) Pharisee wondered whether Jesus knows who and what sort of woman touching him, (Luke).

d) Judas Iscariot was indignant for wasting (John)


2) Preparing Last Supper:-

Ø Mark: 14 (12 And on the first day of Unleavened Bread, when they sacrificed the Passover lamb, his disciples said to him, “Where will you have us go and prepare for you to eat the Passover?” 13 And he sent two of his disciples and said to them, “Go into the city, and a man carrying a jar of water will meet you. Follow him, 14 and wherever he enters, say to the master of the house, ‘The Teacher says, Where is my guest room, where I may eat the Passover with my disciples?’ 15 And he will show you a large upper room furnished and ready; there prepare for us.” 16 And the disciples set out and went to the city and found it just as he had told them, and they prepared the Passover. 17 And when it was evening, he came with the twelve.)

Ø Matthew : 26: (17 Now on the first day of Unleavened Bread the disciples came to Jesus, saying, “Where will you have us prepare for you to eat the Passover?” 18 He said, “Go into the city to a certain man and say to him, ‘The Teacher says, My time is at hand. I will keep the Passover at your house with my disciples.’” 19 And the disciples did as Jesus had directed them, and they prepared the Passover.

Here we observe the following:-

There is difference between (Mathew) and (Mark) regarding the story of preparing for supper:

1) Mark: He sent two disciples to prepare the supper.


2) Matthew: He made all disciples prepare the supper.


3) The writer of the verse No. (Mark 14:17 when it was evening, he came with the twelve) knows nothing about the journey of the two disciples mentioned in the verse No. (14:13). Should he knows the content of such verse (14:17), he would surely have written (He came with the Ten), instead of (the twelve) i.e. verse (14:17) should be read as the following: (And when it was evening, he came with the ten).



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قديم 05-17-2024, 10:27 PM   #4
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4) Timing of last supper:-

According to Matthew (26: 17- 19), Mark (14: 12-17) and Luke (22: 7-8), the last supper was the Passover; however, John (18:28) states that the Passover was in the evening after the death of Jesus.

(John 18: 28- Then the Jews led Jesus from Caiaphas to the palace of the Roman governor. By now it was early morning, and to avoid ceremonial uncleanness the Jews did not enter the palace; they wanted to be able to eat the Passover).

John states that the last supper attended by Jesus with his disciples took place before the Passover. John 13: (1-5 Now before the feast of the Passover, ……. And supper being ended, ……. and began to wash the disciples' feet, and to wipe them with the towel wherewith he was girded).

John states also that they led Jesus in the evening of day preceding the Passover. John 18: (28- Then the Jews led Jesus from Caiaphas to the palace of the Roman governor. By now it was early morning, and to avoid ceremonial uncleanness the Jews did not enter the palace; they wanted to be able to eat the Passover).

The discrepancy between of Bibles in respect of last supper and its timing resulted in difference in an essential point regarding the crucifixion case. Now if we adopt the narrative of (Mark, Mathew and Luke) it means that Jesus had eaten the Passover with his disciples in Thursday evening, and little later on, in the same evening of Thursday, he was led/captured. As such, the crucifixion took place on Friday. But if we adopt the narrative of (John), it would mean that Jesus was led on Wednesday evening and the crucifixion took place on Thursday.

So, did the crucifixion take place on Thursday or Friday?

Where is the Bible that was revealed by Allah to Jesus?

Where is the Bible of Jesus himself?

The four Bibles we have involved discrepancy in almost each incident and each story. Why is there difference between texts and narratives from one Bible to another? If the present Bibles were really a pure revelation from Allah, they would be no discrepancy or difference, and would be one Bible only, not four.

Paul Thessalonians1 .. (2:9- For ye remember, brethren, our labour and travail: for labouring night and day, because we would not be chargeable unto any of you, we preached unto you the gospel of God.)

Where is the Gospel of God mentioned by Paul? He did not say the Bible of Mathew, Luke, Mark or John, but said the Gospel of God. i.e. the bible revealed by God to Jesus. Where is that Bible/Gospel?

Paul says: (Romans 1: 16- For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek) Where is the Gospel of Christ mentioned by Paul?

Now we have four well-known Bibles. Paul stated ranks for “Salvation” and mentioned only the Jews and Greek, but did not mentioned the other nations.

We noticed that the word “Greek” is added by Paul himself, because it was not mentioned in the four Bibles. It is invented by Paul! What about the Italian, French and Spanish People? Would they have such salvation?!

The lack of accuracy proves that it is man-made words and expressions.. it is from the mind of Paul hiThe era of writing the Bibles was full of falsification and alteration. At that time, any one could have claimed that he follows Jesus and tells that his words are inspiration from God, and that (Suddenly there came from heaven a sound like a mighty rushing wind, and it filled the entire house where they were sitting. 3 And divided tongues as of fire appeared to them and rested on each one of them. 4 And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance Acts 2: 1-4), and he will easily find followers, disciples, and supporters.
mself, not a revelation from Allah.

That alteration and falsification is evident in the statement of Paul (Galatians 1: 6- marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel 7- Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.)

It is also evident in (2 Corinthians :11: 12- But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we. 13- For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ)

But, is there a Bible other than these Bibles that can be deemed as reliable “reference or origin” for the Christians? The four Bibles contained expressions or references to certain gospel that is attributed sometimes to Jesus as Son of God, and sometimes attributed to God and sometimes attributed to the Kingdom of God.

In Matthew 4: 23(And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, ….. )

In Mark 1: (14- Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, 15- And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. )

Paul (Romans 1:9- For God is my witness, whom I serve with my spirit in the gospel of his Son, that without ceasing I make mention of you always in my prayers.

It is clear that there is a Bible other than the four Bibles .These Bibles were not there when Jesus talked about such bible/gospel. The four Bibles were attributed to their writers; so, we say Mathew’s Bible, Luke’s Bible .... etc. but the afore-mentioned Bible/Gospel was expressly attributed to Jesus..

Dear brother, Jesus came to save people from ignorance and sins according to the divine teachings and by acting as good example; not through death on the cross or sacrifice his life as an atonement for their sins.

when a young man came and asked Jesus: (Mathew 19: 16- And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?) He did not mention any thing about sacrifice or power of forgiveness in his blood; contrary, his reply was similar to all other Prophets (Mathew 19: 17 - And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments). He told him to comply with teachings of Allah because in Jesus’s opinion that is the way to an eternal life. We can get salvation by believing in Allah, doing of goodness and suppressing evil; not by thinking that Jesus is the Savior nor by believing in his blood atonement.

Dear brother,
People automatically inherit religion from their parents, whether Jewish, Buddhist, Christian or Muslim. Though most of them know little about their religions, they have religion sectarianism. A logical man should get rid of such religion sectarianism and inherited beliefs. He should be objective and think only in the truth.

Religion is not money or property which a son inherits from his father. Religion is something that comes after diligent search and contemplation. My father and yours were not prophets; they were human beings who can be right or wrong. So let’s think and verify whether they were following the right belief or not. If we found that they were following the wrong way, let’s search for the right way which will surely lead us to paradise; not to the hell.

May the Almighty Allah show us the right path and guide us to the truth.

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قديم 05-30-2024, 10:38 PM   #5
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Dear brother,
The Children of Israel received the news of Jesus’s miraculous birth with a big fuss although they were aware of his birth without masculine intervention. Also, they taught their daughters that it is a great honor for any of them to be pregnant with Jesus, but at the same time accused Marry with adultery though she was selected by the Almighty Allah. They made the same fuss upon the death of Jesus.


Jesus was born in miraculous manner, that is without masculine intervention. Similarly, the Almighty Allah told us that the Children of Israel decided to kill Jesus but Allah raised Jesus to Him. So again, the end of Jesus was miraculous. Since we believed that his birth was extraordinary, why don’t we believe that his end was also extraordinary?



The birth of Jesus was beyond the limits of our imagination. We would not have known that if the Almighty Allah did not tell us about it. And so the death of Jesus, again it was beyond the limits of our imagination, and we have to believe it because the Almighty Allah told us about the same. Both of the birth and end of Jesus were miraculous. Jesus entered this life in miraculous manner… why not to end in a miraculous manner?!



Allah said in the holy Quran ((4:157 - …they slew him (Jesus) not nor crucified him, but it appeared so unto them..)). The phrase “But appeared so unto them” proves that the murderers did not verify the character of the murdered man, which is expected in such cases, where things get confused as mentioned before.


In our daily life, it happens that a big number of people witness and see an incident; however, their narratives or testimonies vary although the incident might be recorded, let aside such an incident which took place in the old ages where the parameters are different from the ones in our today’s life. Consequently, it is natural that such narratives are contradictory and conflicting regarding such incident. However, the plain truth is said by the Almighty Allah ((4:157 - …they slew him (Jesus) not nor crucified him, but it appeared so unto them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain..))



The holy Quran which was revealed to Prophet Mohammad, peace be upon him, states ((4:157 - …they slew him (Jesus) not nor crucified him, but it appeared so unto them…. 158- Rather, Allah raised him to Himself.)). As believers, we believe that Allah raised Jesus and the matter is over; we don’t question the particular details, but we believe in all things coming from the Almighty Allah. When Allah says something we believe it without questioning.. Now, when the Children of Israel alleged that they killed Jesus, the Almighty Allah refuted their statement by saying: ((4:157 - …they slew him (Jesus) not nor crucified him, but it appeared so unto them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill
him, for certain. 158- Rather, Allah raised him to Himself.))

Allah said that there were not sure that they have killed Jesus Christ. They were uncertain and did not really verify whether they killed Jesus or the person who was made to resemble him. Then Allah
confirmed that they did not kill him, for certain.




Finally, the matter is not to win an argument or to prevail over each other; contrary, it is searching for the truth and correcting wrong beliefs to win the hereafter.


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قديم 06-11-2024, 11:40 PM   #6
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'In the name of Allah, the Entirely Merciful, the Especially Merciful,


“And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.(157). Surah Nisa

"But [another] was made to resemble him to them"

You said that no one denies Jesus's descendant except a disbeliever and these are delusions that you invented. As well as you allowed things that are not permissible to the non-Arabs (Ajami). I Swear by Allah, you are in doubt about him. You have no knowledge except to follow doubt.

What is the meaning of Judas Iscariot saying, one of the disciples of Jesus who turned away from you, when he went out with the Jews. He told them that he was ashamed of him and therefore he would make the commanding on him since you did not know him personally. So, what did you do?

This testifies that the Jews did not know him and this is stipulated in your Gospel, as well that when they surrounded Jesus and those with him, he went out to them and said:

“Who are you looking for?” They answered him, “Jesus of Nazareth.” Jesus said to them, “I am he.” ( John 18: 4-5)

They looked at "Judas" and asked about the signal they agreed with him on, so they arrested him. In your opinion, how did you believe the situation, as you recounted, that it had been baptized to others - where he did not know him - and Allah raised him as Enoch raised the Prophet.

“Enoch walked with God, and he was not found, for God took him. (Genesis 5:24)

Perhaps you have believed Judas Iscariot in his saying to him and in the text of your Gospel that he is an apostate, a disbeliever, and a cursed. His testimony is therefore not permissible. Or perhaps when he saw him and remorse, he put the commanding over other students and the student rushed to protect him himself.

The proof of this possibility is that in the text of your Gospel, which is in your hands, " Judas Iscariot " was then repent and returned to them the thirty dirhams with which he had sold him. In addition, he informed them that he was not the one arrested.

The Jews said:
“What is that to us? “ (Matthew 27: 3-4)

So, the Jews killed a man _by the proof of your record _ and they only knew him with the testimony of Judas Iscariot.

Allah Almighty can create a similarity to everything in the world. All the attributes of Jesus have parables in the space of possibility in nothingness that can be created in a place other than the body of Jesus, so the likeness occurs.

Saying similarities is saying something possible, not what is not necessary. This is supported by the Torah states that Allah Almighty created the snake from Moses' staff and it's greater than the similarities. Making an animal looks like an animal closer than making a plant look like an animal. The transformation of Moses's staff to a snake is what the Jews and Christians agreed upon. They also agreed on the transformation of the fire for Ibrahim cold and peace and the transformation of the water to wine. So, if you possible this, you may also possible the similarity without impossibility.

Moreover, the Gospel speaks that Jesus arose between the Jews in their seasons and festivals. He was preaching, teaching, and debating them till they admired his innocence and knowledge. So, they were saying:

Is it not Joseph's son?

Is it not Mary's son?

Is not his brothers with us?

Where did he get this wisdom?


If he was well known, why did the Bible stipulate that when they wanted to arrest him, they did not question it. until they paid one of his disciples, Judas, thirty dirhams to guide them to it. He came on Friday night, April 13, with a group of Jews with swords and sticks. The aforementioned disciple said to them:

“Whoever I kiss, he is the one. Seize him.” Immediately he came to Jesus, and said, “Greetings, Rabbi!” and kissed him. Jesus said to him, “Friend, why are you here?” Then they came and laid hands on Jesus, and took him .. Then all the disciples left him and fled.

But Peter followed him from a distance to the court of the high priest, and entered in and sat with the officers, to see the end.
The high priest answered him, “I adjure you by the living God that you tell us whether you are the Christ, the Son of God.”
Jesus said to him, “You have said so. Nevertheless, I tell you, after this you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power, and coming on the clouds of the sky.” (Matthew 26: 48-66).

And Luke says:
“66 As soon as it was day, the assembly of the elders of the people were gathered together, both chief priests and scribes, and they led him away into their council, saying, 67 “If you are the Christ, tell us.” But he said to them, “If I tell you, you won’t believe, 68 and if I ask, you will in no way answer me or let me go” (Luke 22)

They asked the arrested person if he was Jesus. Why the question, does not indicate their doubt about the identity of the arrested person?! This is an important point to pay attention to. What was the answer of the arrested person when they asked him, he said:

"You said"

This is similar to what we say when we do not agree with what we hear "This is what you say." That is, the arrested person did not admit that he was Jesus. Luke says that the arrester's answer was:
“ If I tell you, you won’t believe, and if I ask, you will in no way answer me or let me go “

What does this answer mean?
If the arrested is Jesus, what if he tells them and they do not believe him?! They are looking for Jesus and want to arrest him.
This answer must be someone other than Jesus. If the arrested told them that he was not Jesus, they would not have believed him because he looked like Jesus and they are ready to arrest Jesus. Moreover, if that person asked them to release him, they would not have agreed because they thought or wanted him to be Jesus and because his answer is implausible to them because of the similarity of his features with Jesus and the disappearance of Jesus.

There is no doubt this confusion with the well-known are for many years in dialogues and arguments. All indicate the occurrence of similarity, especially in the Bible. On a dark night in an orchard when his image is distorted and his beauty is changed by beating pulling and types of punishment. Such a situation must not be confused between the thing and the other, as well as between the thing and its likeness. Where do you or the Jews get the assurance that the crucified is Jesus, not his likeness? Rather, speculation took place, as Allah Almighty said.

“And they did not kill him, for certain. (157) Rather, Allah raised him to Himself. And ever is Allah Exalted in Might and Wise.(158).” Surah Nisa

Jews are not sure because they relied on the saying of "Judas". So, what is the need for you to prove the types of insult and punishment against the Lord of lords on your claim? This is the wonder. Then, in the Bible as well: that Jesus was with his disciples in the orchard when the Jews came in to request.


“went out and said to them, “Who are you looking for?” They answered him, “Jesus of Nazareth.” Jesus said to them, “I am he.” (John 18: 4*8).

He hid his person from them twice and they deny his image. This is nothing but evidence of resemblance, and raising Jesus. Some of you have said that Jesus gave the power of transformation from image to image.

Matthew said in his Gospel:
“31 Then Jesus said to them, “All of you will be made to stumble because of me tonight, for it is written, ‘I will strike the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock will be scattered.’* 32 But after I am raised up, I will go before you into Galilee.” 33 But Peter answered him, “Even if all will be made to stumble because of you, I will never be made to stumble.” 34 Jesus said to him, “Most certainly I tell you that tonight, before the rooster crows, you will deny me three times.” (Matthew 26)

He testified against them with suspicion. Rather, he testified against their choice, " Peter ". He is his successor over them. At that time, the trust in your words was sealed, and decided to cast the similarity on the other than Jesus, and the words of the truth, Glory be to Him, were correct:

“ And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.(157). Surah Nisa

Hence, we know that these Gospels are not conclusive, as I have presented to you, they contain many differences and doubts. Further clarify, remember what "Judas" did, and that he lied in his saying to the Jews. This is indicated by the appearance of remorse for him.

And the saying of Jesus: Friend, why are you here?
If he was insisting on corrupting, why he called a friend. Then, do not forget that the Bible testified that Jesus testified to the twelve disciples with happiness:

when the Son of Man will sit on the throne of his glory, you also will sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.” (Matthew 19: 28).

His testimony is right. There is no doubt that the happy person does not commit the large corruption, if he embarks on it. And "Judas" is one of the twelve happy people.

Accordingly:
Either that "Judas" did not indicate it, Jesus did not speak the truth, or that your record has been distorted and replaced. So, choose for you one of these.

to be continued...
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Allah Almighty says:

" وَقَوْلِهِمْ إِنَّا قَتَلْنَا الْمَسِيحَ عِيسَى ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ وَمَا قَتَلُوهُ وَمَا صَلَبُوهُ وَلَٰكِنْ شُبِّهَ لَهُمْ ۚ وَإِنَّ الَّذِينَ اخْتَلَفُوا فِيهِ لَفِي شَكٍّ مِنْهُ ۚ مَا لَهُمْ بِهِ مِنْ عِلْمٍ إِلَّا اتِّبَاعَ الظَّنِّ ۚ وَمَا قَتَلُوهُ يَقِينًا بَلْ رَفَعَهُ اللَّهُ إِلَيْهِ ۚ وَكَانَ اللَّهُ عَزِيزًا حَكِيمًا (157). "

“And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.(157). Surah Nisa


"But [another] was made to resemble him to them"

Are you Jesus?

According to what they said, When the soldiers took the Messiah to the synagogue, they asked him:

“67 “If you are the Christ, tell us.” But he said to them, “If I tell you, you won’t believe, 68 and if I ask, you will in no way answer me or let me go.” (Luke 22.)

Note the following:

1- Why did they ask him if he was Jesus or not? Isn't their question strange?!

So, they doubted who he was and that's why they asked him. A famous person like Jesus was healing the sick, raising the dead, and preaching everywhere. Thousands of people followed him as the Gospels mention. Why do they ask him who he is?!!

The reason is apparent: they doubted the identity of the accused before them, and the issue is not difficult: the disciples and Jesus are thirteen. When the accused was arrested, the chief of soldiers found that the number was twelve, so someone disappeared!! Where is he? Who is he? Everyone doubted what happened and the identity of the arrested person. Indeed, as we know, Jesus was saved by Allah from the hands of his seekers, and the traitor "Judas" fell into the hands of the military instead of him after Allah threw on him the similarity of Jesus, and Allah is powerful over everything.

2- What was the accused's answer?

He told them that if I told you, you wouldn't believe it. that is, if I told you that I am not the Jesus, you would not believe me and if I ask you to let me go because I am not the Jesus, you would not agree to my request. He is right, who among them believed that the arrested is “Judas” the traitor, not Jesus?!

It is not reasonable that the accused's intention was that if he said that he was Jesus, they would not believe him because they want Jesus, so why do they not believe that he is Jesus? But the accused's intention is that they do not believe that he is not Jesus. They do not believe that he is “Judas” similar to Jesus. In this case, they cannot believe that he is not Jesus.


Then if the accused is Jesus, why does he think that they will release him as long as they want to arrest him? As for Judas, this is what tempts him to ask for release as a reward for his betrayal of Jesus. But of course, they will not release him because they are inclined, despite their suspicion, to believe that he is the Jesus, just as their acceptance that he is not the Jesus proves their weakness and the power of Jesus and this is what they do not want.

3- When they asked him:

“ They all said, “Are you then the Son of God?” He said to them, “You say it, because I am.” (Luke 22: 70)

Again, the accused did not give them an explicit answer. He said: you say it. This indicates the refutation of the saying "Son of God". Also, the man did not say yes, rather he said this is what you say, not what I say. The aforementioned answer is exactly issued by "Judas" as well.

4- During this trial of the accused, none of the disciples of Jesus was there. Even Peter, who followed Jesus from afar, was outside the courthouse at this trial. This makes it very difficult to know the truth of what happened, especially since the Gospels tell different questions and answers. The accused may have said: I am “Judas” and they did not believe him and led him to the cross, maybe who knows? Because the Gospels did not mention the fate of “Judas” except for “when” he strangled himself.

5- Asking the priests about the identity of the accused indicates their doubt in him and the accused's answer confirms that he is not Jesus.

6- The accused said:

“From now on, the Son of Man will be seated at the right hand of the power of God.” (Luke 22: 69.)

This is the statement of the accused to the priests after they asked him whether is he Jesus. He answers that the Son of Man (Jesus) is with Allah. If Jesus is standing before them, how can he tell them that Jesus is now with Allah?!

So how can Jesus be in the synagogue of the high priest and be seated at the right hand of the power of Allah at the same time? It is not possible. The explanation for the accused's answer is that “Judas” was hearing from Jesus that he would go to Allah when he was arrested. That is why the accused “Judas” told them that Jesus was sitting at the right hand of Allah.

If we take Luke's account as it is, we summarize it as follows:

a- Asked the accused: Are you the Jesus? He answered: If I tell you no, you won't believe it. If you ask for release, you do not agree. In addition, Jesus is seated at the right hand of Allah.

b- They asked him: "Are you the Son of God?" he answered: this is what you say.

c- Pilate asked, "Are you the King of the Jews?" he answered: this is what you say.

Let's say these questions are interrogations, so what was the accused 's answer?

a- He refused to admit that he was the Jesus, as there is nothing in his answers that indicates his agreement that he is the Jesus, but he told them that he is not the Jesus because Jesus is sitting at the right hand of Allah, as he replied.
b- He refused that he (The son of God), and said: this is what you say.

c- He refused that he was the King of the Jews.

The essential point is the accused's statement that Jesus is now sitting at the right hand of Allah. Therefore, the arrested accused is not Jesus. This is conclusive evidence in the Bible itself that refutes the crucifixion of Jesus.

Luke narrates that the accused was flogged, beaten, and insulted by the military.


“The men who held Jesus mocked him and beat him. 64 Having blindfolded him, they struck him on the face and asked him, “Prophesy! Who is the one who struck you?” 65 They spoke many other things against him, insulting him.” (Luke 22: 63-65)


Suppose, for example, that the whipped is Jesus, is there Allah who is beaten and flogged? Does this make sense?!

Can Allah Almighty not protect Himself? So how does it protect the oppressed? How can he be beaten, flogged, and insulted and be Allah at the same time?!!

The one who was beaten is "Judas". They caught him thinking he was the Jesus. Judas got what he deserved after he sold himself and Jesus for thirty pieces of silver.

Luke tells us that Pilate turned Jesus into Herod to judge him, and then Herod sent him back to Pilate.

“Herod with his soldiers humiliated him and mocked him. Dressing him in luxurious clothing, they sent him back to Pilate.” (Luke 23: 8-11)
Luke alone mentioned this incident and the other Gospels did not mention it. Whether it happened or not, if it happened, why did the other Gospels not mention it?! If not, why did Luke make it up?

The mockers of the crucified said:


“The people stood watching. The rulers with them also scoffed at him, saying, “He saved others. Let him save himself, if this is the Christ of God, his chosen one!” (Luke 23: 35)

The mockers were the people and the presidents. If the people mock, where is the believer? If they were in a state of ridicule, why did they not say (the Son of God)?! Why is " Luke " singled out as the " chosen of God"?!

Two disciples of Jesus narrate to Jesus after his appearance after his alleged crucifixion and they do not know him:

“They said to him, “The things concerning Jesus the Nazarene, who was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people” (Luke 24: 19).

This statement shows that Jesus was a prophet among his disciples and they did not say about him (God or the Son of God).

Then he vanished after the disciples knew him.

The phenomenon of the disappearance of Jesus is frequent, and this is one of the miracles granted to him by Allah. Whenever he needed to disappear, Allah made this disappearance easier for him. The most prominent disappearance was that which occurred on the night of the raid.



to be continued...
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False Prophets:
Here Christ warns, saying:

“15 " "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.” (Matthew 7).

We understand:
1-There will be prophets after Christ.
2-These prophets may be truthful or false.
3-The false are many.
4-Some of them use crooked methods that seem good, but they carry misguidance and evil.
5-You could know if they are truthful or false by their call and guidance.
6-The result of the call of the truthful among them is a good result, which means (followers).
7-Follow the true prophets and avoid the false.

This accurate description does not apply to any nation after Christ or any prophet, except for the last of the prophets and messengers, Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him, and his nation. The religion of Islam, whose enemies cannot deny that it carries goodness and mercy for all humanity, has spread, reforming the conditions in this world and the Hereafter, calling for the oneness of Allah and His worship, after they were in far error.
Christ preaches that the false of the prophets will be killed and thrown into the fire.
19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. (Matthew 7).

The Gospels were written decades after Jesus's departure, and then it was subjected to many additions and deletions. Christ knew the truth about those around him and the truth of the pretenders who would stick to His name and His message and claim to be His disciples, even though they are Satan's disciples, who would support them with wonders and delusions that would be a temptation for people.
Therefore, the author of the Gospel of Matthew said:
“ 21 " "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?' 23 And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!' (Matthew 7).

The name of the Holy Spirit has played such a role in calling on the name of Christ that if they find a rave man, they say:
“He was filled with the Holy Spirit “

There is no doubt that the criminal is the most capable of indicating the ways of criminality, if we want to reduce crimes, we have to bring a group of criminals and get to know them on their methods and then we can develop the necessary plans to combat crime.

Now we come to Saul _Paul_ we find him saying in his second letter to the Corinthians:
11 Why? Because I do not love you? God knows! 12 But what I do, I will also continue to do, that I may cut off the opportunity from those who desire an opportunity to be regarded just as we are in the things of which they boast. 13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works.
16 I say again, let no one think me a fool. If otherwise, at least receive me as a fool, that I also may boast a little. 17 What I speak, I speak not according to the Lord, but as it were, foolishly, in this confidence of boasting.” (2 Corinthians)

When we come to Paul's (Saul) thought of the crucifixion – with our full belief that Christ was never crucified and not attached to the cross – we find him saying:
" 13 Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us (for it is written, "Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree"*)” (Galatians 3)

How can Christ be a curse?
Paul's words are unbelievable. How dare Paul say of Christ that he is a curse or cursed?!!

The text that Paul quotes shows that Christ was not crucified actually. For the same reason Paul mentioned it is that the crucified one is cursed. Therefore, Allah protected the Messiah, peace and blessings be upon him, from crucifixion, and saved him.

How does Paul take the revelation from Christ while saying that he is cursed at the same time?
How can Christ be (Lord) and cursed at the same time?
How can Christ be (God) and cursed at the same time?
Does Paul Revere Christ!!?

" 13 Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us (for it is written, "Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree"*)” (Galatians 3)

As if Christ was guarding against Paul and his thoughts and followers when he said in the Gospel of John:
“32 Indeed the hour is coming, yes, has now come, that you will be scattered, each to his own, and will leave Me alone. And yet I am not alone, because the Father is with Me. 33 These things I have spoken to you, that in Me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation; but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world."( John 16)

This is completely contrary to the saying of the one who hung on the cross and shouted in despair:
"My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?"

This is sufficient to prove that Christ was not crucified.


to be continued...
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:Jesus said

Woe to that man by whom the Son of Man is betrayed!” (Matthew 26:24)"

He said this while warning one of his disciples who would betray and inform him of the government. If the crucifixion is for salvation and by the will and desire of Christ as you claim. Then why woe to those who facilitate the crucifixion?!

Jesus is supposed to thank the man who helped him reach the cross to achieve that desired salvation!

The warning of Jesus indicates that the crucifixion was a conspiracy against him, not a desired goal to achieve salvation.

Jesus spent much of the night praying to God to save him from his crucifixion seekers.

“38 Then He said to them, "My soul is exceedingly sorrowful, even to death. Stay here and watch with Me." 39 He went a little farther and fell on His face, and prayed, saying, "O My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me;” (Matthew 26:36-44)

He was unfortunate that night. If the crucifixion was a goal sought by Jesus, he would not have prayed to God for salvation or to save him. He would not have been sad and depressed. All this indicates that the crucifixion was not a goal sought by Jesus. The crucifixion was a conspiracy against him and Allah saved him from it.

If Jesus willingly offered Himself to be crucified, as you claim, why did the Crucified One cry out on the cross?

"Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?" that is, "My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?" (Matthew 27:46)

According to the record, Jesus considered that God abandoned him and let him fall into the clutches of his enemies. So, the crucifixion was not voluntary and was not for the sake of the salvation of mankind nor the redemption.

Saying salvation by crucifixion encourages people to commit sins. If the crucifixion of Jesus is the way for people to salvation, there is no good left for them after His crucifixion. Due to Jesus has guaranteed them salvation from all sins by redeeming them through his crucifixion.


:Jesus said

“27 " But bring here those enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, and slay them before me.' "(Luke 19)

We do not want to comment on the contradiction of this statement with the statement of Jesus
:

“9 Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. (Matthew 5)

:But we want to ask

Why does Jesus want to slaughter them if His crucifixion will save them from their sins
?!

When Jesus knows the imminent conspiracy against him, he asked his disciples to prepare to resist and said:
“" and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one. (Luke 22:36)

?Why the Resistance

?Why the Swords

You say that Jesus offered Himself to be crucified as a ransom for mankind, and here are the texts showing that He urged His disciples to buy swords to resist the soldiers who would lead Him to arrest and crucifixion
.

If he had intended to offer himself to the crucifixion, he would not have asked his disciples to resist.

You say that God gave his only son because he loves the world and so that those who believed in him would not perish.
“16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life (John 3)

If God loves people and is kind to them, he must love his son firstly, His only son as you claim. Before God loves people, He must love his son. As you say, who loves his son does not offer him to crucifixion.

The crucifixion of one (Jesus) in this case for the sake of the survival of others is an injustice against Jesus and Allah does not oppress anyone.
?What is Jesus's guilt to be crucified

Adam ate from the tree and Allah punished him by expelling him from Paradise. The case is over. One eats and another is crucified!
?!Is Jesus punished for Adam's sin

?!Is Jesus crucified so that people may enter Paradise

There is no relationship between the sin of Adam and the crucifixion of Jesus nor between the crucifixion of Jesus and the salvation of people
.

Allah is can save people without inflicting injustice on Jesus or crucifying
.him or anything else

Jesus prayed to God to save him from those who sought to either kill him or crucify him. He said
:

“Father, save Me from this hour'?” (John 3: 12)"

If Jesus had intended to willingly offer himself to the crucifixion for redemption, he would not have asked God to deliver him from that ordeal. His prayer to God to save him is further evidence of the invalidity of the crucifixion to salvation.

:Paul said

6who will render to each one according to his deeds" (Romans 2)"

:And said

3And do you think this, O man, you who judge those practicing such things, and doing the same, that you will escape the judgment of God?” (Romans 2)

So, there is reckoning and there is judgment and recompense according to deeds. So why was the crucifixion of Jesus
?!

If the punishment is according to work, then the crucifixion of Jesus has no role in salvation and redemption.

John 3, contrary to the other Gospels, also tells us that it was Jesus who asked the soldiers to spare the way of his disciples by saying
:

" 8 if you seek Me, let these go their way,"

.While Mark (14) says: All his disciples fled

" 50 Then they all forsook Him and fled “

:Luke says that only Peter followed him at a distance (22)

“54 But Peter followed at a distance.”

:Matthew says

“Then all the disciples forsook Him and fled.” Matthew 26: 54)

What is clear here, as many situations, is the extent of the differences and even contradictions between the four Gospels, which makes man puzzle over which of their narratives to believe and which to unbelieve.



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..Jesus's predictions of his deliverance from murder

From the beginning of Jesus's call until the lastest day, we find that the Gospels remind us from time to time that he rejected the idea of killing him and denounced it completely. As he worked a lot to thwart all the attempts being made by the Jews
.

:The Gospel of John says (7:16 19)

“16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me. 17 If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself. 18 He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him. 19 Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill me? (John 7)”

“40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham. (John 8: 37-40)

As Jesus is an ordinary human being like all human beings, he is ignorant of what fate is. Therefore, he took precautions to avoid falling into the
.clutches of his Jewish enemies

If he knew that they would arrest him on a certain day, why then those
??precautions

:The Gospel of John says

“1 After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him. (John 7)”

“53 Then from that day forth they took counsel together for to put him to death. 54 Jesus therefore walked no more openly among the Jews; but went thence unto a country near to the wilderness, … (John 11)”

I will now confine to mentioning a several of clear predictions made by Jesus that he would survive the killing, which are consistent with the precautions he took to preserve his life.

1-
:It happened once in one of the attempts to arrest him that

“32 ... and the Pharisees and the chief priests sent officers to take him. 33 Then said Jesus unto them, Yet a little while am I with you, and then I go unto him that sent me. 34 Ye shall seek me, and shall not find me: and where I am, thither ye cannot* come. (John 7)”

I do not think anyone doubts the clarity of this saying, which means that when the Jews seek Jesus to kill him, they will not find him because he will go to the one who sent him. That is, Allah will raise him to him as he raised (Elijah) and his disciple Elisha saw him ascending to heaven.

2- In another situation of defiance between Jesus and the Jews, he assured them of his previous prophecy and that their attempts against him would end by raising him to heaven
.

“21 Then said Jesus again unto them, I go my way, and ye shall seek me, and shall die in your sins: whither I go, ye cannot* come.
22 Then said the Jews, Will he kill* himself? because he saith, Whither I go, ye cannot* come. .... 28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.
29 And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him. (John 8)”


But that crucified man, he shouted desperately
n the cross, saying

“?Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani “

3- The lastest words of Jesus to his disciples were in those moments immediately before the arrest, which was his assurance to them that God
:is always with him and will not leave him

“32 Behold, the hour cometh, yea, is now come, that ye shall be scattered, every man to his own, and shall leave me alone: and yet I am not alone, because the Father is with me.
33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world. (John 16)”

It is equally certain that that crucifix was conquered by his enemies,
.conquered by death, and subjected to his dominion


4- In the last stormy encounter between Jesus and the Jewish priesthood,
:he said

“39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth*, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. Matthew 23)

The challenge in this statement is clear, Jesus assures his enemies that they will not see him from that hour until he comes at the end of the world
.with strength and great glory

But that crucified man was seen by the Jewish priesthood as a prisoner in his grip during the trial and then they saw him hanging on the stage as a dead man and there was nothing left of him except a lifeless body that had .lost the pulse of life



:I borrowed the language of Jesus in the Gospel, saying

“15 He that hath ears to hear, let him hear. Matthew 11) “
.And whoever hears, must understand


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